Where do I begin? Hank Lazer gave a wonderful, enlightening and inspiring poetry reading on October 13. He read selected poems from all, or most of his books. First he read from his book Doublespace, which is a book that opens and begins at both the front and back covers of the book, and meets in the middle. He described it as a collage of poems. He also read from The New Spirit, which is a book he dedicated to Glenn Mott, our final poet in the series. He and Mott corresponded through letters regarding their poems and mentored one another before his book came out. Lazer referred to The New Spirit as a challenge, even to poets. It was not accepted right away because of how different it was than Doublespace and his other work, even though it was well-respected. Mott asked him, “Well, what did you expect?” But it was what Lazer wanted to write, what he was inclined and inspired to write.
“Why would you do it [write poetry] any other way than you want to? It’s poetry,” Lazer said.
Backing up a little bit, Lazer told us he was a Mathematics/Physics major in college. It wasn’t until later that he became interested in English and poetry. In fact, he didn’t publish his first book of poetry until the age of 42. This is very inspiring to me, and probably many others who are aspiring poets. Of course, it is not about the money, it is about the art, the beauty of sound, the spiritual expression, as Lazer said. In our class discussion, Lazer talked about hybrid anthologies that introduce poetry and poetics to students in such a way that leaves them open to everything. But poetry cannot be framed. Classes serve as an introduction to technique and sampling work to see what we will latch onto, to plant the seed in our souls, but it is up the students to make “life-invested gestures” and go deeper… not to just play “dress-up”. He said it takes time to build a relationship with words, ideas and poetry, to delve beneath the surface and discover a true love with a poet, musician or art. It is an ethical and life-based commitment, he said.
He told us his first poetry reading he ever went to was given by Denise Levertov and Robert Creeley, that his English teacher made his whole class attend. I almost died when he said this, as I am obsessed with both of their poetics. He also spoke of a conference he attended with Charles Bernstein, Levertov, Marjorie Perloff and many other amazing poets/pioneers of contemporary poetry and poetics, where they discussed "What is a poet?".
Lazer reads much philosophy and poetry seeking wisdom. He spoke on language and gave us a quote, “It is not man who speaks, but language that speaks,” and said that we are carriers of language in a chemical sense – language expresses itself through us. His newest book Portions is more experimental in this regard. Silence has its own language, as he referenced John Cage’s 4’33”.
Buddhism is something that inspired his later poems, but in a Karmic sense, it was always there, always present in his earlier poetry. He also loves jazz and hip hop and has faith in music and sound and chant. “Method is belief,” he said, and he has faith in musicality and that it will take him somewhere interesting and others will follow and stay engaged. He raised an interesting, philosophical and very spiritual question. “What does music listen to?” He also made the point that every syllable counts and does not agree with scansion or stressed/unstressed syllables.
Lastly, Lazer got the audience involved in his poetry reading, with his notebook of visual poems and method of writing that he refers to as “shape-writing”. These are hand-written poems, no drafts or re-writes, all written in the form of shapes. This is a very spontaneous way of writing and exploring. There is no specific starting point or way of reading. As an audience, we split up into groups and read phrases in the shape poems, some repetitive, some read only once. It was very experimental and lovely to see everyone involved in the reading. Everyone was turning their hand-outs this way and that as they read aloud. He even signed my book in the shape of circle, so I had to turn the book to see what he had written. :)
We had a great turn out for the reading and we are so honored that Lazer came to the University of Oklahoma to share is thoughts, ideas, and most of all, his poetry with us.
Stay tuned, a video of Hank Lazer's reading will be posted soon on the MAE Poetry Series website.
-Morgen Moxley, MAEPoetrySeries Staff
-Morgen Moxley, MAEPoetrySeries Staff
Thinking about Hank Lazer, the one word that most comes to mind is “mensch.”
ReplyDeleteHe presence is relaxed and unpretentious. He does not seem as wound up as many of the academic administrators I have encountered. Perhaps the fact that he is a poet allows him to have an easier attitude. He exhibits a sense both of genuineness and generosity in his interactions with students and others.
I appreciate the fact that he invents poetical forms and then works them till he has worn them out. As he says, “I write in a form until I’ve learned just about all I can from it.” As a result of this approach his poetry divides in to very clear experimental projects.
His first collection of poems, Doublespace, is in two distinct sections—each section starting from a different end of the book. The section starting at the back and reading to the middle is further divided into three groups.
His early poems are earnest lyrics coming out of his personal history. A breaks with this past and sifts to radically more experimental poems, always keeping a keen appreciation for the word (language) and its spiritual underpinnings. He also reveals an amazing sense of play and humor. I was laughing out loud as I read through his series of Compositions.
Over the years I have read very little in poetical theory—poetics. Meeting Jonathan has changed that. Ron Silliman’s blog also deserves some credit for my new interest in lyric theory. Until recently the only books on poetics I owned were John Ciardi’s How Does a Poems Mean? (given to me as a present from my high school creative writing teacher) and Paul Valery’s Art of Poetry (which is one of my favorite books). Because I am now reading poetics, I read and enjoyed several essays in Lazer’s Lyric & Spirit. I particularly found his essay on short line poetry insighful.
He has inspired me to give another serious look at Zukofsky’s A-12 and A-24, which have been under appreciated on my shelves for decades.
Meeting Hank has engendered ideas for projects, ways to work with those projects and directions in which to head.
I will also be keeping a lookout for him on YouTube, not to mention following his work with the Creative Campus concept.